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The End of the Quest

Darren: Let me ask you this: even the mind we have, use and need was put here by this Mystery, right?

Stephen: Everything is just happening. That’s a concept—this Mystery. When I try to understand what’s happening here, what’s seeing everything in the room here, and what perceives this? It’s a mystery. That’s why I use the term Mysterious Source. Then we observe everything in the appearance and say, this is the Mysterious Source expressing itself. I find no separation between the Mysterious Source, what I am, what you are, and everything is. It’s all One. I am the Mysterious Source. You are the Mysterious Source.

Darren: It’s all the Mysterious Source.

Stephen: It’s all the Mysterious Source. It’s one solid block of reality—one solid block of God.

Darren: I now realize my struggle to make sense of all this is perhaps what I must let go of. Because I’m trying to make sense of something that cannot be understood. When you keep using the word mystery, I think that’s my salvation—to embrace that it’s a mystery.

Stephen: Yes, burn out the intellect. You try so hard it implodes on itself. There’s no way to know anything absolutely. There’s no way to know anything absolutely because all knowledge is relative. What is it relative to? When you say, "I know this," it’s relative to something. When you realize the foundation upon which all knowledge is built is a conceptual fabrication—you realize there’s no way to know anything absolutely.

Darren: And, hence, whatever you build onto this fabrication is all…

Stephen: It all falls apart. What’s left is this witnessing that’s happening. And I know nothing. So this is a not knowing. Advaita is not two. When you see that you know nothing and there is not two—that’s it. There’s nothing left to do.

Darren: This is the end of the quest.

Stephen: This is it. I Am. There’s no separate self to realize. There’s nothing to do, nowhere to go—this is it!

 

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